Comments on: Web 2.0 is not dead, is only the broadband of us (why i disagree with Arrington) http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/ pestaola.gr blogging στα καλύτερα του Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:19:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Πόσο σημαντικό είναι τελικά το backlinking? | apas.gr http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466869 Πόσο σημαντικό είναι τελικά το backlinking? | apas.gr Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:03:32 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466869 [...] στο κείμενο, π.χ. της μορφής “[...] Ο Στέφανος αναλύει τις σκέψεις του σχετικά με το post του Arrington και μας εξηγεί πολύ [...] [...] στο κείμενο, π.χ. της μορφής “[...] Ο Στέφανος αναλύει τις σκέψεις του σχετικά με το post του Arrington και μας εξηγεί πολύ [...]

]]> By: Titanas http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466676 Titanas Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:24:00 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466676 Yannis, chip advancement will play a huge role in mobile devices. GPS power consumption needs to go down down down along with 3G and/or WiFi. Downturn in economy doesn't help chip companies to spend more on R&D and build new fabs. It will take some time to see the mobile - geo conscious web with enough battery life for phones calls over high speed cellular networks Yannis, chip advancement will play a huge role in mobile devices. GPS power consumption needs to go down down down along with 3G and/or WiFi. Downturn in economy doesn’t help chip companies to spend more on R&D and build new fabs. It will take some time to see the mobile – geo conscious web with enough battery life for phones calls over high speed cellular networks

]]> By: Yannis http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466670 Yannis Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:54:44 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466670 Interesting idea. Is there even a definition of the web 3.0. Who knows what the next mass perceived stable version will be like. Yes, we can see the "mobile - geo conscious web" over at the horizon and kudos for the seamless interoperability vision. But when you get huge players battling out their own proprietary version (see Iphone(apple) vs Google vs microsoft) and the devices that are going to make it happen, i think a little more macro wikinomics are going to have to get into play. Kudos for the blog titanas, it is an essential part of my google reader gadget -rss extravaganza. That's was so web 1.5 wasn't it? ;) Interesting idea. Is there even a definition of the web 3.0. Who knows what the next mass perceived stable version will be like. Yes, we can see the “mobile – geo conscious web” over at the horizon and kudos for the seamless interoperability vision. But when you get huge players battling out their own proprietary version (see Iphone(apple) vs Google vs microsoft) and the devices that are going to make it happen, i think a little more macro wikinomics are going to have to get into play.
Kudos for the blog titanas, it is an essential part of my google reader gadget -rss extravaganza. That’s was so web 1.5 wasn’t it? ;)

]]> By: PanosJee http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466653 PanosJee Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:32:38 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466653 I think the title was there to impress. The truth is that the last wave of apps is over We have everything there no more apps to handle photos, statuses, messages, calendars, todos are needed In that sense yes the Web 2.0 is not dead but saturated maybe but still exists Now we need apps that speak to other apps and sync with the desktop, we need seamless integration of all profiles that we have aka data portability and some AI to come in, tagging was a remedy for the failure of automatic sorting now we have to bring the real CS staff In that sense we are soon to experience the Web 3.0 if you want to name it like that, but nothing dies I think the title was there to impress. The truth is that the last wave of apps is over
We have everything there no more apps to handle photos, statuses, messages, calendars, todos are needed
In that sense yes the Web 2.0 is not dead but saturated maybe but still exists
Now we need apps that speak to other apps and sync with the desktop, we need seamless integration of all profiles that we have aka data portability and some AI to come in, tagging was a remedy for the failure of automatic sorting now we have to bring the real CS staff
In that sense we are soon to experience the Web 3.0 if you want to name it like that, but nothing dies

]]> By: Titanas http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466634 Titanas Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:44:06 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466634 PanosJee, i don't think Mike's post was stupid at all. He's not a mainstream user, on the contrary he's a tech savvy power user (if that description even exist) tired of all the hype and web 2.0 buzz. He was there before day 1. There's no bling bling anymore PanosJee, i don’t think Mike’s post was stupid at all. He’s not a mainstream user, on the contrary he’s a tech savvy power user (if that description even exist) tired of all the hype and web 2.0 buzz. He was there before day 1. There’s no bling bling anymore

]]> By: PanosJee http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466631 PanosJee Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:30:37 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466631 What a stupid post by Arrington Or we accept that is Web 2.0 is just a marketing buzzword either Flickr, Facebook, Google Maps should have stopped functiioning... Come on Arrington, nothing dies on the net except if you shutdown now -h or /etc/init.d/httpd stop What a stupid post by Arrington
Or we accept that is Web 2.0 is just a marketing buzzword either Flickr, Facebook, Google Maps should have stopped functiioning…

Come on Arrington, nothing dies on the net except if you shutdown now -h or /etc/init.d/httpd stop

]]> By: Apostolos http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466621 Apostolos Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:52:46 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466621 I totally agree with your last sentence! Totally! And I think you gave a better description of what Web 2.0 is, than me. Couldn't agree more! :-) I totally agree with your last sentence! Totally! And I think you gave a better description of what Web 2.0 is, than me. Couldn’t agree more! :-)

]]> By: Titanas http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466616 Titanas Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:43:53 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466616 Apostolos, Web 2.0 on one hand is nothing more than a short description of emerged technologies, glossy graphics, Web UI advancement , programming methodologies like AJAX etc. On the other hand is an idea of the next big internet thing, the internet revolution etc. I don't believe any of those is dead yet. Till we see stable mature code for Geolocation aware apps integrated in cell phone browser running on fuel cells web 2.0 would be around with The Cloud supporting it and broadband us blogging about it. Apostolos, Web 2.0 on one hand is nothing more than a short description of emerged technologies, glossy graphics, Web UI advancement , programming methodologies like AJAX etc. On the other hand is an idea of the next big internet thing, the internet revolution etc. I don’t believe any of those is dead yet. Till we see stable mature code for Geolocation aware apps integrated in cell phone browser running on fuel cells web 2.0 would be around with The Cloud supporting it and broadband us blogging about it.

]]> By: Apostolos http://www.pestaola.gr/web-20-is-not-dead-is-only-the-broadband-of-us/#comment-466615 Apostolos Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:37:01 +0000 http://www.pestaola.gr/?p=9210#comment-466615 You have a point Stefanos. But I think that Web 2.0 ain't a hype etc, but a pure evolution in terms of technical progress. AJAX, JS, Php and many others developed so damn good so they are "musts" for any Web 2.0 app. APIs as well. The other part is users. We, users of this Web 2.0, became more mature than the older Web 1.0 era. And all this user generated content and in general all of our content (personal information, tags, photos, posts, thoughts, ideas etc etc) ain't simply die. I think it's possible to implement it in the possible next Web era, when it comes. Concluding, I am a strong supporter of Web 2.0, the Cloud and everything related to the Web development and progress. Web 2.0 was just the natural evolution of internet/web. And Web 3.0 will be the next one. Although Web 2.0 is used for marketing too, I think it's mainly the progress we made. You have a point Stefanos. But I think that Web 2.0 ain’t a hype etc, but a pure evolution in terms of technical progress. AJAX, JS, Php and many others developed so damn good so they are “musts” for any Web 2.0 app. APIs as well.

The other part is users. We, users of this Web 2.0, became more mature than the older Web 1.0 era. And all this user generated content and in general all of our content (personal information, tags, photos, posts, thoughts, ideas etc etc) ain’t simply die. I think it’s possible to implement it in the possible next Web era, when it comes.

Concluding, I am a strong supporter of Web 2.0, the Cloud and everything related to the Web development and progress. Web 2.0 was just the natural evolution of internet/web. And Web 3.0 will be the next one. Although Web 2.0 is used for marketing too, I think it’s mainly the progress we made.

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